'Adam B. Lancaster' <bria..@cox.net> wrote in messagenews:_I9Wa.17$5f.5@lakeread05..
> I'm not a kid, but am a amateur locksmith/in training
Okay, I'll take this one..
When you say 'amateur' what exactly do you mean? How long have you been
doing it and what do you know, so far?
When you say' 'in training', what sort of training have you already had and
what was the source of it?
> and looking to buy all the supplies that I need.
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> I know NO ONE that wants to teach me.. And my
> local community college doesn't offer any classes in the trade.
Where are you located? Is there a *local* locksmith's association around
you? Have you considered a correspondence course?
> So please don't take offense to a question to locate materials to achieve
my goal.
No offense taken. It's just that you showed up here and right off the bat,
are looking of help in attaining _by-pass_ information. Had you read the
FAQ, or even lurked for a little while, you'd know that was an invitation
for the responses you'll get.
If you are, as you say, an 'amateur / in training' one would assume that
you'd already have some sort of supplier. If on the other hand, you are
just starting, that's neither considered and amateur or in training. Those
two descriptions would tend to mean that you already have some knowledge of
the profession and have been doing it for at least a little while. And
therefore would already have some sort of supply line.
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>
> I understand that the trade is somewhat a secretive society that doesn't
> want there valuable information sitting for the average person to view.
And why do you think that is? Let's say for example you have.. oh,
idono.. a master combination padlock.. on the shed where you keep all
your lawn equipment. How would you like it if your neighbor's kid showed up
here one day looking for the combination to it. Unless we know you better
(from posting here for a while) how would we know you're not that kid?
> Or else they would be out a job.
Hardly. If you really think that, why would you want to enter this
profession?
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I'll tell you how to install a deadbolt. I'll tell you how to repair the
lock on your front door. I'll tell you what's the best access control
system for your particular needs. I'll even tell you how to install it.
I'll tell you how to replace a lock on your car. I'll tell you and teach
you anything *that doesn't involve by-pass methods*.
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Do you really think telling someone how to pick a lock, or giving them
access to codes is going to put me out of a job? For the record.. By-pass
is a _very_ small part of what locksmiths do.
>
> So unless you have anything good to add please do not respond.
>
In other words.. 'If you won't tell me what I want to know, keep your
mouth shut'? That's not a very good attitude for someone looking for help.
If you want help (especially for free) accept it on the terms dictated by
those who are willing to help you.
That all being said, what say we start over? Stick around. Participate.
Learn. Share. Ask some questions not involving circuventional information
for a while - till people get to know you and are comfortable answering them
(privately). Do that and I guarantee, you'll get a better response.
Bobby